reply 10708/21/2015
But aside from just museums Amsterdam is pretty but homely, small and dull - it really lacks any sort of wow factor - which is not helped by the persnality of the local population. They are quite delusional about the appeal of their city. And in the winter it really is the 7th circle of hell - grey, cold, dank, depressing Go there in November and December and have a laugh when the white folks dress up in blackface, big Afro wigs and huge red lips (it's their version of Santa Claus). If you mention that it might be just a touch racist they will spit on you. 'It's tradition' they will say. Well slavery and apartheid were Dutch traditions as well but they don't like to be reminded of that.
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reply 10808/21/2015
Meant "Well,...."
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reply 10908/21/2015
[R100], you've heard of Mozart, perhaps?
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reply 11008/21/2015
Over-rated: Zurich; Stockholm; Bologna; Athens; Brighton.
That's a shame. Stockholm is top of my list of places to visit.
I liked Athens very mush and it has a horrible reputation.
& I'm not sure Zurich is overrated. Who rates it as a place to go, other than a place to park your money?
Under-rated: Delphi; Dresden; Annecy (Fr); York; Ghent; Lago di Garda.
Actually, I think your whole list is pretty shit. Dresden? Ghent? Dear, God...
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reply 11108/21/2015
you've heard of Mozart, perhaps?
He's still there?
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reply 11208/21/2015
I liked Warsaw more than I thought I would. There are some top museums there (sorry, [R106]) and the hotels are cheap.
Vilnius in Lithuania is also worth visiting.
I'd rate Belgrade as the ugliest European city I've seen, but it's cheap and lively.
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reply 11308/21/2015
I'd put Nice, France, as very underrated . I used to love going there. Great city. Very nice beaches. Well located along the French riviera.
But in recent times more and more very cheap flights from the UK has made it crowded to bursting point and dirty and grim. Reminded me of New York in the '70s (& not in a good way).
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reply 11408/21/2015
Has anyone mentioned Berlin?
I'd love to go.
Naples, I agree, is stunning but it's evil. Naples is a beautiful bitch.
Don't just hide your money. Lock it up.
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reply 11508/21/2015
I'm from Napoli and I thank all the people who suggested going there (we need more tourists, not just the pass-throughs to Capri and the Amalfi coast. [R115] is right, she is a beautiful bitch. But tourists don't really need to worry about crime -- there is only the occasional pickpocket for cruise ship tourists, and now that the area around the train station has been fixed up (it used to be really dicey) that's made the city safer too. Camorra violence is reserved for other mob members. Please visit Naples!
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reply 11608/21/2015
The old saying "See Naples and die!" has been updated to "See Naples, be robbed and die!".
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reply 11708/21/2015
Very good [R115]. True of the rest of Italy too, really.
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reply 11808/21/2015
Berlin, [R115], is worth visiting -- no matter what others say. Pergamon Museum, Neues Museum -- 45 minute train ride to Potsdam from main train station.... Lots in Berlin worth seeing.
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reply 11908/22/2015
Where's the overrated and underrated Alabama city thread?
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reply 12008/22/2015
I was in Amsterdam in December and loved it. Shortest days but it was Christmas and quite beautiful. I have never had a problem or felt unsafe in Italy. I did get homophobic vibes one time in Florence, otherwise never felt like I was threatened or about to be ripped off. Same goes for Sicily but I didn't go to Palermo.
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reply 12108/22/2015
[R100] Athens is an eyesore like Naples is There are many other cities in Italy that are nicer. Go to Campania skip Naples. As for Athens ...the people are freindly?! Since the downturn they have changed quite a bit. Before that some of them were worse than The French. Salonica is very nice for a Greek city which isn't saying much.
People are trying to turn Puglia into the new Tuscany,big fail because it isn't. Though I must admit both Bari and Lecce are the jewels of Southern Italy especially Lecce.
[R114] Nice is still not Marseille BUT Marseille has gotten better in the recent past.
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